AMDA
Pompes Disease Conference Call Summaries
Session #1
September 30, 2003
Topic - FDA Regulatory Process
Presented By: Brad Glasscock, FDA
The sessions guest speaker was Brad Glasscock
from the Orphan Products Group at the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA). Brad provided a general overview of
the FDA regulatory process. He emphasized that the
process may differ from product to product because of
issues that arise in the drug development process but
there is a general development plan that he described in
detail.
The FDAs regulatory review period consists of
two periods of time: a testing phase and an approval
phase. The testing phase begins when the investigational
new drug (IND) application for the drug becomes effective
and extends until a license application (BLA, PLA, NDA
depending on the treatment) is submitted. [note - I
believe enzyme replacement therapies require a BLA, a
biologic license application] The approval phase starts
with the initial submission of the BLA and ends when the
BLA is approved.
Phase I - Initially a sponsor for
a new drug or therapy approaches the FDA for a pre-IND
meeting. Typically they have some preliminary data from
tests they have already completed and an outline for a
clinical development plan. The FDA will provide feedback
at the meeting and the principal focus at this point is
on safety. The sponsor may then alter its protocol and
officially submit an IND. The IND must be submitted
before the drug can be administered to humans. The FDA
has a 30-day review period, after which if the FDA has
not acted the sponsor can begin enrolling participants in
new studies. During the FDAs review period they
principally will be looking at safety concerns and they
have the ability to put the study on hold if they believe
subjects may be put at risk. Phase I testing is usually
single dose administration to a limited group and the
drug company and the FDA are mainly focused on safety
issues, as opposed to the effectiveness of the product at
this stage. Phase I can take 6 months to several years to
complete.
Phase II - After Phase I is
complete the company and the FDA will hold a pre-Phase II
meeting. This meeting is principally about product
safety. The company will present the safety results from
Phase I and also discuss the perceived effectiveness of
the product. Manufacturing issues also may be discussed
as it may be required for the company to change its
manufacturing process in order to increase production of
its product. The FDA may require new studies to be done
to show the new manufacturing process does not raise any
safety issues.
The Phase II studies are significantly larger than the
Phase I studies. In Phase II the company is looking for
information on the effectiveness of the product as well
as its safety. Phase II studies are controlled clinical
investigations and are conducted with an expanded range
of subjects (several hundred). The studies compare the
effects of the drug in a treatment group with the effect
of a placebo or alternative therapy in a controlled group
and may be blinded to minimize bias. Phase II studies are
the most important of the companys clinical plan.
Phase II studies will identify the clinical end points
that the company will use in determining the
effectiveness of the product.
Its possible that some companies with orphan
drugs may try to merge Phase II and Phase III, however,
its crucial that the company and the FDA be in
agreement on the clinical end points to be used in
determining a products effectiveness. Phase II can
take 6 months to 2-3 years to complete.
Phase III - The next step is a
Pre-Phase III meeting with the FDA. This is the key point
in time in terms of determining what will be required in
the study for receiving FDA approval and is the last step
before submitting the application for marketing. Phase
III focuses on the effect of the product on clinical end
points and once the company and the FDA agree on the end
points the FDA will provide the approval to enroll
patients in a Phase III study.
Phase III studies tend to be fairly large. However,
for other enzyme replacement therapies they have been
under 100 patients. The companies are looking to control
all variables and develop clean data that clearly shows
product effectiveness. During Phase III the drug is
studied by a larger number of investigators under
conditions similar to those under which it would be used
when marketed. Additional evidence of effectiveness and
more information on potential adverse reactions is
obtained. Phase III trials can take one to two years.
BLA - After the Phase III trial
is completed a pre-BLA application meeting is held. A
full range of issues are discussed including safety,
effectiveness and manufacturing capability. If the FDA
does not believe additional studies are necessary then
the company will be given the green light to submit the
BLA, although some companies will submit even if the FDA
suggests additional studies be done.
The FDA reviews the study looking at quality
assurance, pharmacology, safety, effectiveness and they
will inspect the applicants manufacturing site. The FDA
has six months to review the application. If there are
deficiencies they may require additional work or studies
to be conducted. The FDA uses advisory committees to
obtain outside advice and opinions from expert advisors
so that final agency decisions will have the benefit of
wider national expert input. Committee recommendations
are not binding on the FDA, but the agency considers them
carefully when deciding drug issues.
When the technical reviews are completed, each
reviewer develops a written evaluation that presents
their conclusions and their recommendations on the
application. The division director or office director
then evaluates the reviews and recommendations and
decides the action that its division will take on the
application. The result is an action letter that provides
an approval, approvable or non-approvable decision and a
justification for that recommendation.
Once an approval, approvable, or non-approvable
recommendation is reached by the reviewers and their
supervisors, the decision must be evaluated and agreed to
by the director of the applicable drug review division or
office. The division director generally serves as the
final FDA ruling. In this sense, the division director is
said to have "sign-off" authority for such
drugs. Once the division director (or office director, as
appropriate) signs an approval action letter, the product
can be legally marketed starting that day in the United
States.
Patient Input - Several questions
were asked about patients ability to get
information during the trials and the companys
obligation to disclose information. Unfortunately, most
of the discussions between the FDA and the company are
confidential and the information available to the public
is limited to what the company elects to disclose.
Patients do have the ability to speak at the Advisory
Committee meeting. This usually is scheduled during the
six month BLA review. Patients spoke at Genzymes
Aldurazyme meeting and it was very powerful and made a
big impact on the Advisory Committee.
Orphan Drug Development - Companies
that receive Orphan Drug approval receive tax breaks
during the clinical development stage of the drug. They
also receive marketing exclusivity for seven years.
Development of a drug can be quicker under the orphan
drug procedures and parts of the process can be phased.
Companies can apply for the Fast Track procedure during
the IND phase. Under this process, which is used fairly
often, more FDA input is provided and companies can do a
"rolling" submission for their BLA. Usually the
FDA will not allow a company to submit their BLA until
everything is complete, however, Fast Track allows
applicants to submit their application in sections, as
the work is completed. In addition, these applications
are granted priority review and usually will be processed
in six months (normal time is ten months).
One of the big problem with orphan drugs has been with
enrollment. Companies may have trouble getting a
sufficient amount of patients to conduct a study that
produces clear and definitive results.
The FDA does not have a say as to what a company can
charge for a new product once it is approved.
The AMDA would like to thank Brian
White for supplying this summary, and for coordinating
the conference call with Marsha Zimmerman, AMDA.
Session #2
November 13, 2003
Topic 2003 IPA Conference
This sessions topic was an overview of the IPA
Conference held in Heidelberg, Germany on October 31-
November 2, 2003. Over 100 participants including
patients, representatives from Genzyme and medical
specialists from all over the world attended the
conference. Participants on the call that attended
included Marsha Zimmerman, Dan Pipe, Marylyn House and
Brian White. The conference format included presentations
on a variety of topics followed by a question and answer
session. Participants on this call attempted to provide
as factual a presentation of the information that was
presented at the conference as possible.
The first evening of the conference included a
presentation by Genzyme. This call principally focused on
that part of the meeting. A summary of the areas
discussed is provided below.
I. New Clinical Trials
initiated in 2003:
- 1602 (started in April 2003)
- Dose range study
- Still only 7 out of 16 infants
enrolled (up to 6 mos of age)
- Data from this trial will be used to
obtain FDA approval in the US
- Study sites: Taiwan, Israel, UK,
France, US
- This is a key study since the data
can show significant results
- 1702 (started in January 2003):
- 15 out of 16 infants now enrolled (6
months to 3 years)
- Single dose study
- Data from this trial will be used to
gain approval in Europe
End Points for both trials: Survival
and improvement in ventilator dependency
Past Clinical Trials Continue:
Previous trials with Enzyme Replacement Therapy
started in January 1999.
II. Expanded Access and
Special Access programs to start in 2003:
- Infantile Expanded Access Program:
- The first expanded access program to
be initiated.
- Will include older children that had
onset in infancy but who do not
qualify for trials 1602 or 1702.
- The expanded access program will be
made available on a first come, first
serve basis.
- Started Oct 2003.
- Data will be gathered and used
towards getting FDA approval.
- Late-Onset Special Access Program:
- Will start as the supply of enzyme
increases.
- Will include the severely affected
late onset patients that do not
qualify for the late onset clinical
trial that will start in 2004.
- Patient Criteria: 24-hour ventilation
and non-ambulatory patients.
III. Genzymes Pompe
Patient Registry:
- International, on-going observational
database
- Open to all physicians treating Pompe
patients
- Open to all Pompe patients as long as their
physician is willing to participate
- Patient and doctor confidentiality will be
strictly adhered to
- The registry will enhance understanding of
the disease
- The registry will develop patient reports to
monitor treatment results
- Will develop guidelines
- Will evaluate long-term treatment plans
- The registry will find Pompe patients thru
patient associations
- IRB (Institutional Review Board) approval is
necessary before any physician can take part
in the registry.
Significant discussion occurred about the use of
the Registry, how the Registry relates to some of the
other data collection sources that currently are in
existence and what steps a patient needs to follow in
order to participate in the Registry. It was
suggested that we approach Genzyme about
participating in a future telephone call concerning
the operation and scope of the Registry.
IV. Late Onset
Observational Study to commence in late 2003/early 2004
- Will include 60 late onset patients (mild to
moderately affected)
- Will commence by the end of 2003/beginning of
2004
- Patients to be observed at 0, 1, 3, 6, 12
months.
- First part is observational study, with no
enzyme used.
- Data from this group will help determine the
end points for the treatment study
- 40 patients will be selected from this group
to be part of placebo controlled, dose
ranging treatment study to commence in 2004.
It is not clear exactly how the 40 patients
will be divided up (i.e., 20 patients will
receive a placebo; 20 will receive enzyme
therapy??).
- After six months Genzyme will analyze the
initial results of the placebo trial.
- This group is the toughest group since there
are few published reports for the natural
history of the disease for adults and the
muscle problems vary among the late onset
patients.
- Five sites to be used 3 in the US and
2 in Europe
V. Commercialization
- Genzymes stated goal, which they
stressed several times throughout the
meeting, is to have enzyme replacement
therapy available for all patients in the
fastest manner possible.
- Genzyme will probably file for approval in
Europe first, in the fourth quarter of 2004
- Data will be submitted in mid-2005 to the FDA
in the US. Approval in the US will probably
be in mid-2006. This should also coincide
with their plans to increase manufacturing.
VI. Manufacturing
Challenges:
- Dosing is still a big issue. What dose is needed
to be effective?
- Not knowing dosing makes predicting future drug
needs difficult.
Genzyme CHO (Chinese Hamster Ovary Cell
line) developed and initiated 2001:
- Genzyme has multiple sites and production
scales:
- Cambridge MA: Genzyme Headquarters
- Framingham has:
- 90 L reactor volume dedicated for
making product to supply drug for
patient ready on product and
for future clinical trials.
- 160 L reactor volume. Will supply
infants and expanded access, if extra
is available.
- Allston has:
- 2000L reactor volume, which is the
same scale used for Serazyme and
Fabrazyme. Genzyme currently has
three 2,000 L reactors. Will supply
late onset trial.
- First run on this reactor looked
good, but cant use the drug
made
Multiple Activities:
- Process development and scale up: Start small
and then build up
- Process validation: Each process needs to be
validated.
- Regulatory requirements to
demonstrate that the product is under
control and can be repeated.
- Genzyme must have 3-5 successful
sequential running of the
manufacturing process
- Must do this 3 times in the US and
5 times in Europe
- Manufacturing of the drug:
- Cell culture takes 1 3 weeks
- They then harvest fluid that comes
from the cell culture
- Purification of the fluid that was
harvested (multiple steps to do this)
- Make bulk drug
- Formulation
- Storage and transport
- The cell culture and harvesting of fluid is a
continuous process.
- Every step of the manufacturing process
requires research and development and must be
presented to the FDA.
The whole process takes from 6 7
months from start to finish.
VII. Dosing Issues:
- Genzyme is still not sure about the proper
dosing level, particularly for adults.
- Clearly, the general enzyme requirements of
Pompes Disease are much greater than
the enzyme requirements of the other
Lysosomal Storage Diseases currently being
treated with enzyme replacement therapy
- In 2004 they intend to keep
researching enzyme targeting to make
the dosage more effective and reduce
the amount required
NOTE: Our intent was to also
address Dr. Slonims presentation on diet/exercise
treatment and Dr. Amalfitanos presentation on the
potential of gene therapy for Pompes Disease,
however, we ran out of time. We will follow up with calls
on these two topics in the first half of 2004.
The AMDA would like to thank Brian
White for supplying this summary, and for coordinating
the conference call with Marsha Zimmerman, AMDA.
Session #3
January 27, 2004
Topic Nutrition and Exercise Therapy Program
Nutrition and Exercise Therapy Program
Dr. Slonim provided an overview of the Nutrition and
Exercise Therapy (NET) program he is currently using for
patients to help fight the effects of Pompe disease.
Traditionally, textbooks and the medical literature do
not prescribe any therapy for Pompe disease. However, his
group has found that the combination of nutrition therapy
and daily aerobic exercise have provided positive results
for patients. In some cases patients have made
significant improvements and regained mobility previously
lost. In other cases patients appear to have reached a
level of stability that they are able to maintain until
the enzyme replacement therapy is available.
Nutrition therapy consists of a high protein, low
carbohydrate, and moderately high fat diet. It is
conceptually similar to the Adkins diet and looks to
increase the amount of protein consumed in order to
compensate for the bodys consumption of protein
when glycogen cannot be broken down sufficiently due to
the deficiency of the acid alpha-glucosidase enzyme. The
diet also seeks to minimize carbohydrate intake in order
to reduce the amount of excess glycogen stored in the
muscle lysosomes. The diet is customized and depends on
an individuals nutritional needs. Likewise, the
aerobic exercise is customized to fit in with the
patients exercise needs and capacity. Many Pompe
disease patients are calorically deprived and either get
full rapidly when eating or have problems with diarrhea
and have difficulty keeping weight on.
Alanine
The NET program also utilizes L.alanine as an amino
acid protein supplement. Dr. Slonim believes that Pompe
disease patients are consuming proteins when their bodies
are not breaking down a sufficient amount of glycogen due
to the enzyme deficiency. Therefore, alanine
supplementation replenishes that supply. Alanine needs to
be taken several times a day and the effect of the
alanine appears to be maximized if taken at different
times throughout the day. Although this may be difficult
for patients that work, the current thinking is to try to
take ¼ of a teaspoon four times a day. Most patients
obtain alanine in powdered form, however, there is a
company in California that sells alanine in tablet form.
A patient reported that JoMar (sp?) Labs in California
sells alanine in either capsule or powder form. Ordering
can be done over the Internet and the process is very
simple. Dr Slonim uses L.alanine procured from Ajinomoto,
a company located in Nth Carolina. Unfortunately, they
will not sell it to patients and will not sell in
quantities less than 10 kg
A mother of a patient reported that Genzyme did not
allow her child to continue using alanine in the infant
ERT trial. This was a concern to several patients on the
call and it was agreed that this would be an item to take
up with Genzyme if they intended to require adults to no
longer take alanine as part of the late onset trial. This
would be especially difficult since the first part of the
late onset trial is simply to look at physical
performance and doesnt include any enzyme therapy.
Exercise
The exercise component of the NET program consists of
submaximal daily exercise designed to work, but not
overstress the muscles. Dr. Slonim has seen tangible
results with patients that exercise, especially
youngsters, some who have been able to regain a certain
amount of walking capability after adopting an exercise
program. The submaximal program does not include the
traditional type of exercise such as weightlifting or
heavy aerobic activity. These forms of exercise may
damage the muscle by burning amino acids and increasing
the breakdown of protein since the glycogen the body
needs when exercising is not available in Pompe patients.
[NOTE Dr. Slonim emphasized that this is the
theory as to what occurs in the body of a person with
Pompe disease but it has not been scientifically proven
to date.] Under the submaximal exercise program a patient
hits his/her peak at approximately 60-65% of the maximum
heart rate. The exercise program is designed based on the
persons individual exercise abilities and is
structured so to minimize the amount of protein consumed
by the body.
Compliance
Dr. Slonim and Linda Bulone both emphasized that
compliance is probably the most important element of the
NET program. The patients must exercise daily and follow
the dietary restrictions strictly. They have found that
strict compliance usually leads to positive results and
that there is a significant difference between the
results of a person that is 100% compliant and the
results that are received with 50% compliance. In short,
a lifestyle change is required in order to help guarantee
compliance and the patient must be dedicated to the
program. In addition, it appears that better results
occur if the program is implemented and followed as early
as possible after the discovery of the disease. It is
easier to slow the progression if this occurs.
It is important for patients to have an individualized
exercise program developed based on their particular
physical situation. The treadmill is a good source of
exercise if it can be tolerated. Others have found that
resistance type exercise has been effective.
However, heavy lifting should not be utilized and the
program should be individualized.
Dr. Slonim briefly discussed what has been described
regarding the affect of the enzyme in infants and in the
knock out mouse. Results have shown the enzyme to be
effective in decreasing glycogen in the cardiac muscle
and the diaphragm but less effective in decreasing
glycogen in skeletal muscles. Therefore, Dr Slonim feels
it will be essential to utilize the NET therapy in
conjunction with the enzyme replacement therapy when it
becomes available in order to ensure the maximum effect
of the treatment. This is especially true with adults,
where the results of enzyme replacement have not been as
dramatic as with children/infants.
Respiratory Issues
Dr. Slonim emphasized the importance for Pompe
patients to react quickly to any developing respiratory
infections. Do not let your physician downplay the
seriousness of the illness and emphasize to the physician
the impacts it can have on a Pompe patient. The
respiratory muscles of Pompe patients are vulnerable and
are weakened and respiratory infections need to be
addressed immediately. In severe cases it may require
early hospitalization. The infections need to be treated
with antibiotics and intense nutrition therapy and this
may, in some cases, need to be done intravenously.
Dr. Slonim believed it beneficial for Pompe patients
to get flu shots as well as a pneumonia shot.
Ephedrine
Some patients that are following the NET program
currently are taking ephedrine. It is believed that this
acts similar to the exercise component in the NET program
in stimulating the muscles and enhancing fatty acid
relief, however, this has not been fully confirmed to
date. It is important that the dosage be correct for
those using ephedrine, since too high a dosage could
stimulate the heart rate and increase blood pressure to
an unhealthy level. The patient needs to maintain enough
body weight because a side effect in many is weight loss.
Another side effect of ephedrine in males is prostate
enlargement, which may effect bladder function. Although
the FDA has recently banned ephedra this is different
than the ephedrine sulfate prescribed and should not
impact patients ability to obtain medically
prescribed ephedrine.
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The views contained in this summary
do not necessarily reflect the views of the AMDA (board
and/or directors). It should be noted that data derived
from this therapy has not been published. (March 19,
2004)
The AMDA would like to thank Brian
White for supplying this summary, and for coordinating
the conference call with Marsha Zimmerman, AMDA.
Session #5
May 25, 2004
Topic - Insurance Issues
Presented By: Tricia Sawayer, RN, CCM
Senior Case Management Specialist, Genzyme
Support Team
Tricia Sawayer has worked with all types of patients
to include Fabry, Gaucher, MPS-1 and now patients
diagnosed with Pompe disease. She has also helped the
patients diagnosed with Fabry, Gauche, and MPS-1 with
insurance issues and reimbursements questions.
Tricia covered a broad range of questions and concerns
surrounding insurance issues, however she could not
discuss insurance issues surrounding a non-FDA approved
drug. Tricia however, did talk about general insurance
issues and how the Genzyme Treatment Support Team can
assist the patient figure out their individual insurance
policies.
There are three general types of insurance:
- Medicaid
- Medicare
- Commercial or private insurance.
There are some patients with late onset Pompe disease
that have Medicare due to their disabilities. Medicare is
a health care coverage for those older than 65 years old,
those who have been disabled for two or more years and
people diagnosed with end stage renal disease.
Medicare is a federally sponsored program that
is standardized across the country. Medicare is totally
funded by federal funds and is portable between states.
Medicare is now branching off into Medicare HMO plans and
they are testing Medicare PPO plans in the state of
Florida.
Standard Medicare for enzyme replacement therapy
(ERT), such as Cerezyme, Fabryzme and Aldurazyme is
covered under Part B and covers 80% of the cost. Tricia
strongly recommends a Medicare supplemental or secondary
insurance to assist with the remaining 20%. ERT is
covered to be given in a doctors office or
outpatient setting. This is covered as an adjunct to a
physician service.
Medicaid is a state administered program and it
is very state specific. Medicaid receives both federal
funding and state funding. Each state looks at their own
residential needs, the needs of their population, and the
state decides how to manage their funds and how many will
be covered, who will be covered, etc.
Medicaid has a lot of different programs within each
state. Some are based on income, and some are medically
needy programs for people who have high cost health
insurance issues. There are also "share of
cost" programs, where they assist after a patient
spends a certain amount of money each month. The state
programs are always changing.
Case managers at Genzyme are assigned by regions and
by patient population. This helps them give one-on-one
case management services and helps them keep current with
specific state issues surrounding Medicaid and commercial
insurances.
Commercial insurance refers to Blue Cross Blue Shield,
Cigna, Etna, and Humana (as examples) and they are also
known as private insurance.
There are many plan types within these companies and
each plan type can have different types of coverage. If
the insurance is through your employer, you might be able
can tweak the policy to meet your own health needs.
Plan types: HMO is a network of hospitals and
health care providers and when you sign up for an HMO
plan, it is expected that you will receive your care
within this network. Your choice in choosing a hospital
and a doctor might be limited; however, these plans can
work well for a lot of people. If your hospital and
health care provider are in the HMO network this usually
results in far less paperwork, less out of pocket
expenses and no deductibles. The life time max on HMO
policies is frequently unlimited, but this must be
verified first. HMOs have been around for quite a
while. They now have hybrid plans that can offer out of
network benefits similar to a PPO plan. HMO choice and
HMO select are examples of a hybrid plan. Unfortunately,
they arent all black and white anymore.
PPO is a health care plan that provides in and
out of network benefits, with incentives to stay in
network. However, you do have the flexibility to go out
of network to see a specialist. PPO has deductibles and
out of pocket expenses.
Each health plan is different so you cant assume
anything.
Basic questions to ask when choosing a health care
plan:
- Can I see my present Dr?
- Can I go to my preferred hospital?
- Can I go see a doctor out of network or out of
state?
- Will I need a referral?
- What is the deductible?
- What will my out-of-pocket costs be?
- What will the out-of-pocket costs include?
- Does it include the deductible?
- Do co-pays count toward the out-of-pocket costs?
- Is there a life time maximum on the policy and if
so, what is it?
- What is the prescription benefits and co-pay?
- Is there a dollar amount cap on the prescription
benefits?
ERT can either be placed under the prescription
benefits (retail or mail order pharmacy) or under the
major medical benefits. You will need to go verify
benefits and ask specific questions to determine which
place the ERT may fall under with your insurance.
Pre-existing condition waiting period: A condition
that was in place or diagnosed when you started the
policy. Pre existing waiting period can be up to 12
months and can be waived or reduced if you can show that
you have been covered under a group health insurance
policy without a break for more than 63 days. This is
done by obtaining a certificate of creditable coverage.
It is a piece of paper stating that you were insured
under this plan from one date to another and then your
current health insurance carrier will credit you for the
time that you were covered.
It is important to know that you should keep group
coverage for as long as possible. An individual insurance
coverage generally doesnt have the same protections
as the group coverage does.
If you have a Cobra Policy that is about to end, you
will want to call the office of your State Insurance
Commissioner and inquire about guarantee issue options in
your state.
Guarantee issue options only exist when you are
exhausting, changing or somehow ending group coverage. It
can all be very complicated.
ERT is widely covered by Medicare, Medicaid and
commercial insurance. When you ask for coverage you will
have to show that you were accurately diagnosed (blood
test, biopsy, etc) and to show that ERT is medically
indicated. The Genzyme Treatment Support has been doing
this for over 10 years now with Ceredase and now
Cerezyme.
The Genzyme Treatment Support knows how to assist the
patient and the doctor with prior authorization. They can
also help the doctor fill out the paperwork for the
insurance company.
What happens if you exhaust a lifetime maximum on your
health insurance policy? If you have insurance through
your employer, ask your employer if there is an option
that didnt have a lifetime maximum or if you can
switch to another insurance and start a new lifetime
maximum.
You can get health insurance through trade groups such
as carpenter, unions, college alumni groups, church
groups, etc. The group insurance usually has better
protection than an individual policy. Or look at the
state options as far as high risk options. Health
insurance coverage for people that cant get
individual policies or if their COBRA runs out they can
go to a guarantee issue or a high risk pool. This is very
different from state to state and it is hard to say what
options are until the Genzyme Treatment Support team
knows what state you live in.
Q: If you have supplemental insurance can you
use that insurance to cover the difference between what
Medicare covers and the part you are responsible for?
A: Part A is given to people when they turn 65.
But you have to actually choose Part B, since ERT is
covered under Part B. Medicare Part A is hospital
insurance and Part B will cover things outside the
hospital (doctors office or other outpatient
setting). It covers 80% and you will still need some type
of insurance to cover the other 20%. It would be wise to
look into picking up a Medicare supplemental plan. This
plan will mirror the Medicare plan exactly. If Medicare
covers something then the Medicare supplemental plan will
also cover it. The main purpose of having a secondary
insurance plan (such as keeping your work insurance after
you retire) is to cover the remaining 20%, which would
then give you 100% coverage.
Q: In 2006, with the new Medicare plan that is
coming out, I was under the impression that Medicare
wasnt going to allow a secondary insurance to cover
the remaining 20%.
A. Tricia thinks a secondary insurance will
still be able to cover it. Genzyme hasnt seen
anything stating that Medicare would not allow other
insurance to cover the 20%. The Medicare Prescription
plan will also change, and it might not affect ERT since
you cant get this through a commercial pharmacy
like a Walgreens.
One thing to watch is the Medicare HMO. You have to
ask some very tough questions. Medicare HMO is only
mandated to cover what basic Medicare covers which is
80%. Most do cover at 100%, plus you get other benefits
(prescription eyeglass coverage, and some prescriptions
paid for), but Genzyme has seen a few Medicare HMOs
that only covered ERT at 80%. Fortunately they have taken
away the penalty from rolling out of a Medicare HMO plan
to a standard Medicare plan. But it really depends on
state to state.
Q: Have any insurance companies balked at
paying for treatments that are considered to be
experimental?
A: When the FDA approves a drug, then it is no
longer considered experimental. When working with
Aldurazyme and Fabryzme which was approved by the FDA
last year, Genzyme tried to cover as much ground as they
could. Genzyme put together information packets that the
provider could send out to the insurance companies that
included: the letter from the FDA showing that the drug
was approved. The Genzyme Treatment Support team is
trying to target the larger health insurance companies
first to try to educate them as soon as possible about
"rare genetic disorders". Genzyme will send
information to these insurance companies as to what the
therapy is, how the disease is diagnosed and the
treatment required. Also the Genzyme Treatment Support
team will find try one health insurance case manager to
work with during this education process.
Q: Can you talk a little bit about Home Care?
Is this allowed with Medicare or are there rules?
A: When you start getting ERT, you would be
receiving this in an out patient hospital setting. Since
ERT is covered under Part B (adjunct to physician
services) home infusion is not an option. If you have a
true secondary insurance, home infusion therapy may be an
option under the secondary insurance.
Q: If you have obtained Medicare due to a
disability, and if your health improved so there is no
longer a disability, what would my insurance options be?
A: Any type of disability insurance and it is
up to the state to monitor the level of disability. Some
people have to go for yearly medical checks and others go
less often and some states dont monitored at all.
You have to look at the options within you state, such as
a high risk pool, or a medically needed Medicaid program.
Q: When talking about ERT are you separating
out the cost of the drug with the other associated
infusion costs? Will they bill separately for the enzyme
and then bill for administering the enzyme?
A: If ERT is done in an outpatient hospital
setting, then they may bill together for the drug and the
infusion. If it is in an outpatient setting such as a
doctors office, then they usually bill separately.
Some health insurance companies have preferred vendors
for their injectable medications and they will tell the
hospital which pharmacy they can order these medications
from. Then the pharmacy would purchase it and bill the
health insurance plan, and then ship it to the hospital,
so then the hospital would only charge for the infusion
costs. However, it is very dependent on the type of
insurance you have.
It is very important to verify benefits and to ask if
ERT is covered under you health insurance plan. ERT may
have to go to a prior authorization process with your
insurance.
If you would like Genzymes help in contacting
your health insurance company, you would need to sign a
patient authorization (HIPAA) form.
Q: Once you hit your lifetime cap with your
insurance company are there other options available to
us?
A: There are lots of programs for medically
needed people. If you are exhausting a lifetime maximum
and if you are employed, talk to your employer before
capping out your policy to see if there are other, better
options for you. Also there is a high risk pool health
insurance options in different states. Genzyme could help
you find out the different options that are available in
your state.
Q: Are there states where Medicaid does not
cover ERT?
A: No, I havent had Medicaid deny ERT in
any state; however, they do ask a lot of questions. It
helps to have a case manager when dealing with Medicaid.
Q: Is it typical for Medicaid to deny you due
to income?
A: Until you make an appointment with a
services representative to find out what types of
programs are available, it is hard to know what is
available to you.
If Medicaid covers an item, it is usually covered at
100%. Coverage is different than reimbursement. Medicaid
may cover an item, but they may reimburse lower than the
provider charges.
Q: Can you talk more about pre-existing
conditions?
A: It is important to know how your health
insurance coverage defines a pre-existing condition. How
far do they look back to see if the condition is
pre-existing? What questions did the health insurance
company ask? If you have a pre-existing condition and the
health insurance company has a pre-existing condition
waiting period of one year, then you may have to wait out
that one year prior to receiving benefits. Obtaining a
certificate of creditable coverage from your previous
insurance companies may contribute to the pre-existing
condition waiting period being waived or reduced. It is
best to get your insurance companys guidelines at
the very beginning.
Q: Should I get Long Term Care Insurance?
A: This is separate from health insurance and
wouldnt pay for ERT.
The AMDA would like to thank Marsha
Zimmerman for supplying this summary, and for
coordinating the conference call.
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